These are some of the answers I give in usergroups. Will keep posting more and more. Rick
There was a discussion in another group where some Messianic "Jews" were
saying that they celebrate Shabbat. This was my answer to them. I thought you
would enjoy it.
It actually makes no sense for a Christian to celebrate Shabbat. It is the
same thing as if I were to celebrate the Chinese New Year. According to
Christian Pauline Theology, Jesus took away all the "burden" of the law. So
a Christian celebrating Shabbat makes absolutely no sense. A Christian does
not understand the Holyness of Shabbat. The importance of keeping that
moment Holy and Unique. A Christian does not care about not driving or
turning the lights on on Shabbat. The Christian people that "celebrate"
Shabbat are just doing it to give their Christianity a touch of Judaic
expression and make their Christianity a little more "Kosher" if you know
what I mean. But Christianity is an aberration of the truth and idol human
worship to it's fullest.
Imagine a planet that has Divinity defined as follows.
There is a huge monster, very big, very powerful, who creates little
creatures and wants them to obey his rulings without any type of knowledge.
This monster creates two creatures in a beautiful garden but forbids a fruit
to them because this fruit contains knowledge. One of the small creatures
dissobeys because she is interested in learning more. The monster gets so
pissed he casts these little two creatures to a life of hell because they
ate a little fruit.
Years later (it really doesn't matter what happens in between these two
events) the monster sends a guy to be killed so the blood and flesh of this
guy is eaten by all the creatures and they can be saved. The guy is dead and
remembered every sunday in a festival of blood, were the creatures drink the
blood like vampires.
Another entity is a ghost. A ghost that runs all around the world making
creatures speak gibberish, act according to their own desires but justified
because this ghost has possessed them.
The huge monster, the dead guy and the ghost are one (huh?) And they are not the
bad guys. There is another guy who is another evil being who is trying
constantly to keep the people from following this religion of death and
despair.
If the creatures do not accept the blood and sacrifice of the dead guy they
are condemmed to a hell of fire and lost for all eternity. Sometimes the congregation creates
that hell here on earth (aka Inquisition, Holocaust, Banishment, Bombs by Murderers etc)
There is also a witch appearing all around the place. She is very beautiful
and says that she is the one the creatures need to follow, after all she
bore the dead guy and she deserves the praises of all the creatures.
This myth comes from ancient babylon, went to Egypt, then to Greece and it
was translated to western ideals by a crazy greek man called Paul. That is
the theology Christians actually live and kill for. This theology keeps
everyone under the regime of death and despair and prevents all the
creatures from actually thinking well.
The facts that can be used against the Christian theology of death are vast
and extremely interesting. I am glad I am out of such a horrible idea of
Divinity. I am no atheist though. I believe in this wonderful, merciful
creator that has nothing to do with this theology of death and despair that
christianity is.
Blessings
Rick
www.daghdaprod.com
This is a discussion with a Fundamentalist Christian Human Idol Worshipper. I thought it was cool.
Someone said on the list: "The Jews have already taught us. Yahshua, Mark,
Matthew, John, Peter, Paul. "
Why do you as a Jew not listen to your own kind?
My answer:
Yahshua perhaps did not even exist but was created by people that wanted to
Hellenize the Jews. He had some good ideas but if he existed, he was a
blasphemer. He said he was Lord of the Shabbat, blasphemy. He said that God
and him were one, blasphemy. He believed in a Greek concept of Hell (He
talks about Hades, nothing jewish about it). And much more.
Mark and Matthew just tell a story, in Greek, about a man who they say was a
Messiah. But the two stories contradict each other. They were just story
tellers, not prophets.
John, the lover of Jesus. Can you imagine what I can write about my lover? I
can say she is the Bright Morning Star of Heaven and the Treasure of the
Moon. Does that make her the Bright Star of Heaven and the Treasure of the
Moon? Of course not. John says that his lover is the Word on the Flesh. Can
you imagine the blasphemy he is committing. When you go to a Bar Mitzvah you
kiss the Torah scroll that the young lad is carrying around Synagogue. But
Jesus, through John, is the Torah in the Flesh, so he takes the place of the
most holy thing in Judaism. Idol Human Worship to its fullest.
Peter. A murderer, a liar and an anti-semite.(Read the whole book of Acts) A
lowlife who even betrayed his own teacher by denying he knew him. A petty
fisherman who knew absolutely nothing about Torah. A guy who thought whe was
"The Shit" because Mr. Jesus gave him "The Keys of Heaven" which were not
Jesus's to give out at all.
Paul: Not Jewish, Greek. Born in Tarsus, present day Turkey, miles from Jerusalem. A racist, a
homophobe, a sexist and an arrogant pig that makes all the mistakes in Talmud
Lore because I doubt he even knew it. A promoter of idol human worship in
the world and an abomination to the jewish blood that perhaps not even ran
on his veins.
If those are the Jews you learn from, so be it. I learn from Noah, Joseph,
David, Moses, Elijah, Isaiah, Daniel, and many others who knew exactly what
Hashem meant and means and who hated idolatry and loved Torah with all their
might and kept Shabbat Holy at all times.
Just my take
Rick
www.daghdaprod.com
I liked this one:
Talking about math. When is this equation true? 3=1 Never right? It is
the same thing as saying that the Monster, the Dead Guy and the Ghost are
Echad. Impossible in every sense. The concept of Echad is not to be taken
lightly. Echad is ONENESS. Not a plurality of deities. Echad is ONE. How can
they say that a Human, just like the rest of us, is god in the flesh? Why
would God be flesh? Why would He be Human? Why would he be a male? That is very chauvinistic if you
ask me. There are millions of different species and genders around the Universe, and
Hashem is God of all these species and genders. Why would a human 33 year old be the
redeemer of all these species throughout the Universe? Why would God become
a ghost as well and make people act in strange ways like "Barking in the
Spirit" or "Speaking Toungues that sound like Gibberish"? Does it make sense
to you all.
And Granny or whoever you are. You said that Moses and David were sinners.
Yes they were, all people in the Tanach deal with sin and they repent. But
the sins commited by your heroes (Paul, Peter, Jesus, John and others) are
far worse because they do them without any type of repentance, after all,
their saviour pays for the sins commited by them. If you deny the importance
of Moses in your own faith, what are you doing in a list like this one?
Moses is the cornerstone of the Jewish, Muslim and Christian Faiths. Even
your so beloved Jesus acknowledged this many times in several of the 4 story
books written in Greek. Furthermore, your precious Paul and Peter were
canonized as Saints of the Babylonial Cult known as Catholicism. The pope is
supposed to be infallible and yet, he kills and destroys his foes.
Christianity is supposed to be charitable and merciful and yet they take the
money of all the poor people with lies (an aberration, the total contrary concept to Tzdekha) and they even make torture chambers for those that do not abide to their rules. The examples are endless.
Jesus is not the Messiah. The Messiah is supposed to come from King David's Line
but Jesus had no human father. Joseph wasn't his dad so a genealogy that
Matthew writes is a total stupidity. He says: "and Jacob the father of
Joseph, the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus who is called Christ".
Who cares who the husband of Mary was? He wasn't the father of the baby.
Even if his genealogy comes from King David, Jesus' does not. Question:
If Mary is the mother of God is Joseph the stepfather of God?
The Messiah is a victorious King who understands Torah and fights for it.
Jesus just fought for his own glory. And he succeded unfortunately. Imagine
him saying, in a boastful voice, with a total conceited attitude "I AM LORD
OF THE SHABBAT". I would have been the first one to throw a stone at the dude. A 30
year old dude boasting he is Lord of the most sacred Jewish Time, instituted
by Moses years before to conmemorate the sanctity of Hashem. I would have
hated the dude as well.
When someone accepts the sacrifice of Jesus as payment for their sins they
don't care anymore about commiting further sins, and they do. After all,
whatever I do, I have earned God's forgiveness through the blood of the
dude. So who cares if I sin, he payed for it. I will keep on doing it and
praying every night to the dude to cover me with his blood and protect me
from the rage of Hashem.
Why do Christians say that Jesus was the wisest man ever? If you read
closely, the dude is actually quoting David's Psalms and many other Jewish
Scriptures. There is really nothing new that he says. Everything is in the
Tanach.
There is one prohibition in the Tanach, for both Jews and Gentiles. We are
not to Drink the Blood of a living being. But yet, Jesus converted with
Magick the Wine into his blood and gave it to his disciples. Imagine how
confusing this was to those that grew up Jewish?
To finish, because I could go on for ages, why do you christians believe in
a 4 chapter story tale, told by men, contradicting itself in so many areas ,
just to give glory to a human? Doesn't it make more sense to believe in the
AWESOMENESS of Hashem and his Mercy? Don't you think Hashem, the ONE,
deserves all our praises instead of some young 33 year old dude that is
killed every sunday in a sacrifice of blood? I sure think He does.
Blessings
Rick
www.daghdaprod.com
3/29/2003
I just wanted to remind all female christians about a paragraph written by the Greek Man Paul, read it and let me know if Paul is a prophet or a sexist. That will make you decide whether Paul's word is the word of God or his own insanity.
It is an easy test, even for christians.
1 Timothy 2:11 A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent. For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner. But women will be saved through childbearing if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety.
Word of God. Yeah right!
(BTW, someone said that there might be wolves here in sheep clothing. I consider myself not a wolf but a Lion with the Soul of a Dragon defending Torah, I am no sheep)
Blessings
Rick
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